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Some of the reviews have said its stiffer...
I tend to ride in rain when its bumpy...

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I was going to change from my 22 to new one and have test ridden one twice now I had one for a day from Sycamore when bike was in for service couple of weeks back.

I really cant feel any difference at all, So would be buying for wings which i do love and new rear end so just left it as only had bike a year now and done a fair bit to it. Even though they did say they would swap everything over on to new one for me.

I do love the look of new 23 model looks great. maybe a bit later on poss lol
 
I was going to change from my 22 to new one and have test ridden one twice now I had one for a day from Sycamore when bike was in for service couple of weeks back.

I really cant feel any difference at all, So would be buying for wings which i do love and new rear end so just left it as only had bike a year now and done a fair bit to it. Even though they did say they would swap everything over on to new one for me.

I do love the look of new 23 model looks great. maybe a bit later on poss lol
Thats strange because there are lots of differences between the models.
Its the reason i just bought a 23 because the model before i didnt like that much.
The 23 has different geometry and different feel on the front end which is alot more to my liking.
Also the electronics are superb on it now.
Plus a few little changes which i think improve it.
Not to mention the looks
 
Yes DDC version.

I found it very stiff on the rear end and just didnt feel right compared to my last Gen 3.

I took the bike to Perry (Leask Racing) he used to be at HM racing.

He worked on the bike for nearly a day and made all different adjustments including rear height and made slight adjustments to front fork height too.

Had me on and off the bike and kept taking it out to try.

On way home bike felt like another bike and since has been amazing on road and track.
 
Thats strange because there are lots of differences between the models.
Its the reason i just bought a 23 because the model before i didnt like that much.
The 23 has different geometry and different feel on the front end which is alot more to my liking.
Also the electronics are superb on it now.
Plus a few little changes which i think improve it.
Not to mention the looks

22 Model Year has the later frame than previous.

And to be fair I have done a fair bit to mine, So I think standard bikes do just feel a bit allien.

I was going to change as they offered a crazy deal to swap but just didnt see the point and love the feel of mine now.

Yes agree I do like the wings
 
Yes DDC version.

I found it very stiff on the rear end and just didnt feel right compared to my last Gen 3.

I took the bike to Perry (Leask Racing) he used to be at HM racing.

He worked on the bike for nearly a day and made all different adjustments including rear height and made slight adjustments to front fork height too.

Had me on and off the bike and kept taking it out to try.

On way home bike felt like another bike and since has been amazing on road and track.

Did Perry say what adjustments he made? Did he give you a list of "before and after " adjustments? I too find mine too firm, but, with the DDC its not possible (as far as I know) to adjust the actual damping. Changing the front or rear ride hight won't make the bike softer. There is also no preload to take off, you can only add it.
 
Did Perry say what adjustments he made? Did he give you a list of "before and after " adjustments? I too find mine too firm, but, with the DDC its not possible (as far as I know) to adjust the actual damping. Changing the front or rear ride hight won't make the bike softer. There is also no preload to take off, you can only add it.

Also, which mode are riding in?
 
Also, which mode are riding in?

Yes I have the paper work before and after and set up different settings on each Pro Modes.

He did have the rear shock out of the bike.

All I can say it is like night and day, I found it so hard before, And used to rocket me out of seat and i was not enjoying it.

He is a great guy and so helpful, He even asked me to call him when I took it on track next and send him pics of tyre wear.
 
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Seems like your glass is half empty.
I see why could think that.
I get annoyed about all the reviews online saying how great the s1000rr is a im convinced a few are sponsored by bmw!
They are great bikes, the reason i bought one was because they are great bikes.
But no bike is perfect.
And I feel like an honest review is whats needed if your going to part with over 18 grand for a bike.
 
No bike is going to be all things to all men. You're above average height and weight compared to most riders. So as you know need, a specialist to sort out your springs and damping. When I started riding Japanese bikes years ago, people complained they were built for midgets. Now the seat height is high for me on the R1. And I reckon super sticky tyres make as much difference as a few geometry tweaks here and there, on the road at least.
 
No bike is going to be all things to all men. You're above average height and weight compared to most riders. So as you know need, a specialist to sort out your springs and damping. When I started riding Japanese bikes years ago, people complained they were built for midgets. Now the seat height is high for me on the R1. And I reckon super sticky tyres make as much difference as a few geometry tweaks here and there, on the road at least.
I usually do my own suspension, ive done about 10 sets of forks in the last year.
But the ddc is different, its not your basic damped setup.
I cant see how to fix the standard setup without complete setup of the shim stacks.
 
I haven't looked into it, so there's probably a simple explanation. So why does only one fork leg have an electrical connection. Unlike my 1299S that had one on each leg.
 
Only one leg has the damping leg in it. The other is preload adjuster only
 
Did assume that. Seems a bit cheapo, compared to the Ducati Ohlins versions.
 
Yes I have the paper work before and after and set up different settings on each Pro Modes.

He did have the rear shock out of the bike.

All I can say it is like night and day, I found it so hard before, And used to rocket me out of seat and i was not enjoying it.

He is a great guy and so helpful, He even asked me to call him when I took it on track next and send him pics of tyre wear.

Ah, Pro Modes, that explains it then. Thanks.
Doesn't really help me as I ride in the road modes on the road.

I think the switch from Sachs DDC to Marzocchi was a retro grade move. I'm still struggling with the fact you can spend ?25K on a bike with no ability to alter the suspension while in road modes!
 
Ah, Pro Modes, that explains it then. Thanks.
Doesn't really help me as I ride in the road modes on the road.

I think the switch from Sachs DDC to Marzocchi was a retro grade move. I'm still struggling with the fact you can spend ?25K on a bike with no ability to alter the suspension while in road modes!
Cant you set up a pro mode to be the same as the road mode so you can adjust the suspension?
 
Cant you set up a pro mode to be the same as the road mode so you can adjust the suspension?
In the pre'23 you lose bluetooth/nav in the pro modes. Which is why people stick to the defaults.


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