track advice - gearing......and brakes

[Northernsoul65]

I've had my new gen 3 at Donnington and then Mallory yesterday. Firstly................love it!

I'm wondering about changing sprockets - any advice/thoughts? What difference would this make on track? I noticed at Mallory that out of chicane in second it was sluggish to pick up (but maybe just needed to be in 1st). On both track days I barely just got into 4th on straights before needing to change down so mainly just using 2 and 3. Can the gearing be changed to make it more 'track friendly' or more useable somehow?

Secondly, I want to replace front pads and brake fluid. Someone at Mallory mentioned dot 4 race? I'm wondering about a higher spec pad - tracl/race pads?

thanks guys

 

[alex]

Small track you probably want 16/46 for punch out the corners and avoiding 1st...
16/43 is what most teams ran but they happily use 1st out the slower stuff.

LCF600 Brembo Fluid and Z04 pads are IMO a great combo...

 

[Northernsoul65]

thanks Alex

Small track you probably want 16/46 for punch out the corners and avoiding 1st...
16/43 is what most teams ran but they happily use 1st out the slower stuff.

LCF600 Brembo Fluid and Z04 pads are IMO a great combo...

 

[Northernsoul65]

I'm still going to use the bike on the road for now so is the Z04 too much given that:
The Brembo Racing Z04 compound was developed specifically for racing

Small track you probably want 16/46 for punch out the corners and avoiding 1st...
16/43 is what most teams ran but they happily use 1st out the slower stuff.

LCF600 Brembo Fluid and Z04 pads are IMO a great combo...

 

[alex]

Meh...I used them on the road, because I am lazy, and they were fine.

But yes fast road pads will do.

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[GavD101]

Meh...I used them on the road, because I am lazy, and they were fine.

But yes fast road pads will do.

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Interesting, i was wondering if anyone used these on the road. My SBS pads are nearly done after 3 TDs and very little road riding.

 

[Northernsoul65]

Alex, any recommendations for make of replacement sprockets and chain? Something good for plenty of track days per year and odd amounts of road riding.
cheers
john

Small track you probably want 16/46 for punch out the corners and avoiding 1st...
16/43 is what most teams ran but they happily use 1st out the slower stuff.

LCF600 Brembo Fluid and Z04 pads are IMO a great combo...

 

[alex]

I think I am using a DID 525 ZVMX Gold 120 links. + Renthal front sprocket. I use talon-eng.co.uk for my rears as I they cater for my Titax rims as well as the forged 2017 HP rims.

 

[bananaman]

I'm still going to use the bike on the road for now so is the Z04 too much given that:
The Brembo Racing Z04 compound was developed specifically for racing

I used z04 when I was racing, poured down just before a race and rushed to change to wets but forgot about the pads, didn't realise til the end lol

 

[Northernsoul65]

thanks Alex

I think I am using a DID 525 ZVMX Gold 120 links. + Renthal front sprocket. I use talon-eng.co.uk for my rears as I they cater for my Titax rims as well as the forged 2017 HP rims.

 

[Northernsoul65]

ok, so no good in the wet?
I don't want to be changing pads if it rains so wondering if race/track spec EBC pds would be best?

I used z04 when I was racing, poured down just before a race and rushed to change to wets but forgot about the pads, didn't realise til the end lol

 

[bmwbadboy]

Z04s work perfectly fine in wet

 

[alex]

Z04's are fine, just a complete waste of money if you're not hammering them.

Anyway these should do, https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/870rst
I think others have been happy with EBC pads...

 

[bananaman]

The consensus of racers was not to be used in the wet but after that day it never bothered me, maybe because they were being kept hot

 

[Northernsoul65]

thanks Alex.
I think the sbs or ebc will do fine for me

Z04's are fine, just a complete waste of money if you're not hammering them.

Anyway these should do, https://www.sbs.dk/products-1/brake-pads/870rst
I think others have been happy with EBC pads...

 

[GavD101]

thanks Alex.
I think the sbs or ebc will do fine for me

I've got their older version the RS. I must say i am impressed by them on track with good initial bite and a consistent feel even when they start to get toasty. But they will be dead after this weekends TD at Silverstone. (4 track days and about 500 miles on the road)

I'll get the RST and I expect them to last a similar amount of time.

 

[alex]

Who is best value for SBS?

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[GavD101]

I paid ?50 for mine off an Ebay seller. There are a few at this price and seems the going rate for RS and RST for the Gen 4.

 

[Northernsoul65]

does anyone know the standard length of the chain oem? and the pitch?
I believe sprockets are 17 front and 45 rear

 

[Northernsoul65]

I'm thinking of 16/46 as you suggested Alex (and also a chap from Crowe performance) for track, but wondering if chain will therefore remain same length as oem or need to change.

does anyone know the standard length of the chain oem? and the pitch?
I believe sprockets are 17 front and 45 rear