Cornering ABS

[kenno78]

I have a 2015 Gen3 bike and understand it has ABS Pro which deals with locking the front up whilst cornering.

I was in Almeria a couple of weeks ago and never really had the confidence to pull the anchors whilst tipped over to any degree (if you know Almeria, i'm thinking before the chicane).

Watching other riders on YT, it seems they carry huge speeds then brake hard whilst leant over which seems like a very bad idea, but the bikes seem to deal with this.

Does anyone have an experience of this? TIA.

 

[scooby]

tbh, abs aside (something i would never use on track,espcially cornering abd whatever it is/does) you can brake well into a turn,in theory, the harder you brake,the more grip you have, upto a point/lean angle obviously. that will be what your seeing,nothing to do with "cornering ABS". it's down to practice,feel, skill+experience, everything that comes with time, again to a point (we are no rossi's after all)

 

[Fraggle]

2015 bikes don't have cornering ABS. Think that came on 2017 bikes

 

[kenno78]

Okay. Sounds logical that the front would have more grip under braking. I guess I'd read so many times that 'you shouldn't be touching the front brake lever when you're turning in' which is why I'd wondered how people got the bikes to stop whilst tipping in.

 

[Fraggle]

https://youtu.be/gPE67XqGsV4

Maybe this will help you. Good video on introduction to trail braking.

 

[alex]

2015 bikes don't have cornering ABS. Think that came on 2017 bikes

You could add it at the dealers post release. For a ???
But yes default from 17

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[alex]

Do not use an S1000RR on track with ABS in anything lower than RACE mode.

In lower modes if you lift the rear it will let the brakes off...to get the rear back down...not giving a **** that you have the rear off the ground to avoid a crash.

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[fast_ryan]

For trackdays just turn the ABS off. Much simpler and no need to worry about whether or not the system is going to do something daft when you least expect it.

 

[IMORTAL_Indian]

My2016 has it.

 

[JamieMac]

2015 bikes don't have cornering ABS. Think that came on 2017 bikes

Cornering ABS can be retrofitted on the 15's. Only a software update. I did that on mine. J

 

[shy231_]

ABS pro.....I believe later 16 models had it too was updated midway before an actual update for 17's. (My 16 also has it)


That aside throw out the misconception that you cant brake while leaning. Scooby summarised it quite well.

Takes practice and time but you will grab the nack for how much you can brake into a corner. It actual really helps to get the bike turned.

Just remember as your lean increases......your brake pressure eases.

Knowing reference points for where you can be on the brakes up to massively helped me with learning.

 

[kenno78]

Just remember as your lean increases......your brake pressure eases.

Assuming this only happens with ABS Pro?

 

[IMORTAL_Indian]

ABS pro.....I believe later 16 models had it too was updated midway before an actual update for 17's. (My 16 also has it)


That aside throw out the misconception that you cant brake while leaning. Scooby summarised it quite well.

Takes practice and time but you will grab the nack for how much you can brake into a corner. It actual really helps to get the bike turned.

Just remember as your lean increases......your brake pressure eases.

Knowing reference points for where you can be on the brakes up to massively helped me with learning.

Are you planning Portimao again?


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[shy231_]

Assuming this only happens with ABS Pro?

No, as in you need to slowly bleed off the brakes as you lean.

Same principle whether your riding a bike with fancy electronics or none

 

[shy231_]

Are you planning Portimao again?

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Yes, will book in in next month or so.

26-28th may redline

 

[Wull]

No, as in you need to slowly bleed off the brakes as you lean.

Same principle whether your riding a bike with fancy electronics or none

it?s what we call ?trail braking????.trail off brake pressure as your lean angle increases as you approach the apex. Think of it as being the opposite to applying throttle.

 

[kenno78]

No, as in you need to slowly bleed off the brakes as you lean.

Same principle whether your riding a bike with fancy electronics or none

Ah right. I thought you were suggesting the bike did that.

I get it. Will try it out on track the next time. Hopefully braking into the corner shaves a few more seconds off.

 

[alex]

Yes, will book in in next month or so.

26-28th may redline

Considering that one too.

 

[alex]

Ah right. I thought you were suggesting the bike did that.

I get it. Will try it out on track the next time. Hopefully braking into the corner shaves a few more seconds off.

ABS Pro is turned off in RACE/USER and SLICK modes.