61 in a 40....

[RickS1K]

Happily, not me. One of my mates has fallen foul of a camera van hidden/parked behind a big lorry. His fault and the pics have him bang to rights. That means a possible Band B fine, carrying up to ?1000 fine, 4-6 points/7-28 day ban.

Interested in thoughts as to whether he should get a solicitor or plead his case solo?

Cheers

 

[ekdg]

i think if he has been caught at that speed and he is bang to rights the best a solicitor will do is plead some mitigation of which there will be none ? but your friend will have to pay for the solicitor costs on top of any fine.

Does he need to drive for work? does he have to work to support a family ?

If he needs his licence for work then get a letter from the employer that he needs to retain his licence, this will help to avoid any ban.

If loosing his job would mean he could not support his family this is another good element for mitigation.

 

[Zxcv12]

i think if he has been caught at that speed and he is bang to rights the best a solicitor will do is plead some mitigation of which there will be none ? but your friend will have to pay for the solicitor costs on top of any fine.

Does he need to drive for work? does he have to work to support a family ?

If he needs his licence for work then get a letter from the employer that he needs to retain his licence, this will help to avoid any ban.

If loosing his job would mean he could not support his family this is another good element for mitigation.

100% this, there's no other option and in my unfortunate experience, magistrates really do take mitigating circumstances into consideration. I doubt he'll get a ban, but 6 points and a few hundred quid fine unless the bench is seriously fed up that day. Good luck!

 

[MrSmooth]

Why not try one of the specialist bike solicitors such as https://www.whitedalton.co.uk who tend to be in the accident claims business, but they will certainly give some initial free advice or suggest another practice.

I've used solicitors twice for long gone speeding offences, once at 110 on a motorway national speed limit. 3 points and a slap from the magistrate and a Newton Trial where I pleaded guilty to speeding but contested the policeman's version of events, him claiming I was doing over 70 mph in a 30. Ended up pleading guilty to 50 in a 30 over a measured distance of less than 2/10ths of a mile - ?60 plus three points. Mind you, I did all the distance calculation work from the County Highways maps for the solicitor to deliver in court....

They'll do their level best at keeping your licence but you'll have to pay for the privilege. Just depends how much they want to keep their licence.

 

[Wull]

If he wasn?t on the back wheel then I?d say jail the coont for being a ***** lol!

 

[RickS1K]

If he wasn?t on the back wheel then I?d say jail the coont for being a ***** lol!

Lol. Never seen him pull a wheelie, and I think he'll not want to try for a while after this. Last week he was definitely going to get a solicitor to plead for him, a weekend on the internet, reading solicitors' websites, has apparently changed his mind and he's pleading himself...

 

[RickS1K]

So... after years with a clean licence, he sent back his NIP with 'a heartfelt apology'... wotevea one of them is... and he got a reply this morning - ?100 and 3 points... someone in the mailroom was in a good mood

 

[alex]

Best result he could have got!

 

[Pedro3178]

Nice! Great result! It?s just your luck who you get.

My old fella was a bad alcoholic, one night he was beating my mum so we had to get out, my own car was in the garage, she was in no fit state to drive so I took her in her car ( I wasn?t insured ) on the 20 min drive to my grandmothers house. A police car came over onto the opposite side of the road and crashed into us, plenty witnesses to say the policeman was an absolute nutter! Anyway, long story short, I got 8 points ( maximum they could give ) and a ?2500 fine. The policeman that took my statement and understood the situation told me beforehand that the maximum I could get was 8 points and ?2500 but don?t worry , I would never get that he said due to the circumstances. Absolute tossers! Couldn?t do anything about it but ended up getting myself a lawyer and suing the police over the accident , the entire time I asked for a written apology and for the points to be reduced and I would drop the case, didn?t get either . Won the case and got ?12.000. Still angry to this day about it!


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[RickS1K]

Wow Pedro, sorry you both had to go through that.

 

[Pedro3178]

Wow Pedro, sorry you both had to go through that.

Thanks mate. Car was a write-off so mums insurance got hammered as well. Only good part was at the hospital, the policeman driving the car didn?t realise he was in the next cubicle to us, we heard him saying to the nurse that this young p**k had driven too close to the kerb and caused all this , when the traffic cop came in to see if we were ok we told him , man! You should have heard what he gave that guy! It was brilliant! Think my mum even laughed


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[Zxcv12]

So... after years with a clean licence, he sent back his NIP with 'a heartfelt apology'... wotevea one of them is... and he got a reply this morning - ?100 and 3 points... someone in the mailroom was in a good mood

Brilliant, lucky boy!

 

[Felix]

I think googling things is always a bad option haha

When I was 19/20 I was riding around on a R6 on a A2 license, Police tried to pull me over and out of panic I ran off, Stopped phoned my mum and was like "Oh my god I've just run from the police what should I do, Should I say the bike has been stolen" During the phone call police turned up at house..Number plates.... End of all of that, Didn't lose license, Got 3 points and ?100 fine

Later on was doing 65 in a 40, Same situation 3 points ?100 fine - Police car behind

The worst one I had was like 60 in a 40, Mobile speed gun signaling to pull me over after he clocked me and I didn't as had a very small plate and hoped they didn't get it, They did. Got 5 points and ?300 for that.

I know these are pretty bad and I promise I'm not a bad guy was just young, Well younger and silly.....

But if I googled those offences I'm sure it would've said lost license for sure. 26 now (Granted havn't had a bike for a while) But have a clean license down from 11 points

 

[Wull]

I had a spell in 2012 where I was riding like a complete **** on my GSXR 1000 and because of where I lived everybody knew everybody, I ended up in 3 police chases and an incident with a community police officer who jumped out on the road.

I thought I had got away with it all when the daughter of the local sergeant phoned me up and says ?my dad wants to see you, he?ll be coming by your work tomorrow????..after a chat he let me away with everything and told me not to **** about again. Thankfully because we knew each other and liked each other I got off lightly with that one.

 

[Akula]

Mitigation done nothing for me. Heres a story that happened to me about 10 years ago ,
Filtered through to the front of traffic on a dual carriageway , unmarked police car at the front n never noticed, lights went to green , and i opened it up. Average was 97mph on a 50mph , for a short space of time. Done for dangerous driving , local newspaper headline was 97mph biker/rush hour traffic.
Automatically assume i was weaving in and out of traffic etc , truth was i never moved out the left hand lane and never overtook anyone as the road was clear.

Anyway a few months later whilst in court i was chatting to a guy who was up for drink driving , he crashed his car through a wall into someones garden and fled the scene and went home .
He got several tins of beer out his fridge and poured them down the sink and placed the empty cans beside his chair. When the police traced him half an hour later or so he tried to tell them he was shaken up after the crash and drunk the cans of beer but he was still charged.

So i got a 1 year ban , ?400 fine and extended resit
the drunk driver who damaged property and fled the scene , got a 1 year ban , but 3 months knocked off if he went on a course , ?320 fine and his license handed back to him. So much for Zero Tolerance for drink drivers.
?400 fine , ?100 or so to get license back after ban , a few car lessons to get the old habits out the way , and then i had to book TWO tests as the extended test overlaps into the next test (90mins) so not far off ?1000 all in.

Wrote a letter of mitigation , needed license for work , driving ill mother about etc , but it never washed with the judge.