De-cat and power commander

[Iain-s1000rr]

Hey up guys,

If i was to consider a de-cat pipe for my 2011 non sport would i also require a power commander?

Would the bike run sluggish or possibly cause problems without one?

Cheers

 

[Parley Waller]

Christ mate you are going to make your mind up soon :- 26th Jan you had a full Akrapovic system on order, 27th you are asking about a slip on , today its a de-cat pipe. You use to be indecisive but your not sure now!!:beguiled:

But in answer to your question Austin Racing say their De Cat System does NOT require a Power Commander.

 

[Mina]

A PCV or Bazzaz etc. can only provide gains with zero ill effects so why not? Well worth it IMO.

 

[Iain-s1000rr]

Not really im pretty good for time as the weather is shat. I had to cancel the order on the full akrapovic due to something coming up that required the pennies i had saved. I asked about a cheap second hand slip on to put on whilst i saved up for the full system again. Managed to buy a slip on and was thinking about a De-cat to go with it.
Im going to be honest and say i dont know a great deal about the bike and what works and what doesn't thats the main reason i signed up on here was for a bit of support and knowledge.

Thanks

 

[Iain-s1000rr]

A PCV or Bazzaz etc. can only provide gains with zero ill effects so why not? Well worth it IMO.

definitely true Mina, better safe than sorry. thanks

 

[pof]

I know you say ar are saying they dont need a pc but mine certainly did. It hunted so badly on tick over it was horrible

 

[powders]

Not sure about our s1000rr's but I de catted my gsxr 750 k8 and it improved it no end thought I would have needed a power commander but didn't, much better in the mid range.
Hopefully someone who has done it to their s1000rr will be able to enlighten you better
Good luck

 

[SimonOrsborn]

I've got a 2013 S1000RR. Decatted and I run on super unleaded with K&N filter. No problems. Smooth as-you-like. Still thinking about a Hilltops ECU re-flash though.

 

[bananaman]

Every s1000rr engine is different to a certain extent. You may feel it runs sweet after a de-cat when in fact it runs lean and is great up to the point it goes bang in 3 figure territory.... Manufacturers spend millions, maybe billions on design etc then joe blogs comes along and knows different. My point being at least have a dyno run to see if it's adequate after a de-cat even if you don't want it perfect. Why are you de-catting it? Do you want it to last? I always have mine done for piece of mind when i'm 'on it'

 

[fast_ryan]

Dyno Power Run

A simple power run on a Dyno to check the A-F ratio will soon tell you if the bike is running too rich or too lean.

 

[JimmyMac]

I've got a 2013 S1000RR. Decatted and I run on super unleaded with K&N filter. No problems. Smooth as-you-like.

+1

When I was at Buildbase BMW I asked the guys about fitting a PCV and they told me that the BMW engine would cope with a decat and they were right. Who would have thought it? LOL

JimmyMac

 

[Iain-s1000rr]

Well i think i will get the De-cat and have it run on a dyno just to make sure its all good, cannot be arsed forking out a load of money for something as daft as not having it checked on the dyno.

 

[alex]

Jimmy, were you discussing the HP4 or a stock one?

 

[bananaman]

+1

When I was at Buildbase BMW I asked the guys about fitting a PCV and they told me that the BMW engine would cope with a decat and they were right. Who would have thought it? LOL

JimmyMac

There's a difference between coping and running right? I fail to see why money is spent on bling over having it running the best it can...imo lol

 

[stevo_swuk]

I agree with getting it checked on a dyno. The PCIII on my old ZX10R made a lot of difference to the mid- range by making it run smoother. The next ZX10R I ran with no PC and a decat middle pipe - it never ran perfectly, next job was a PCV. But I sold it before I went down that route.

 

[pof]

When it went on the dyno the fuelling was miles off. Rich was an understatment

 

[Iain-s1000rr]

I noticed that Mina was selling a PCV so will spend the extra on that as well and have the de-cat fitted along with the slip on & get it straight on the dyno, seems like the safest option.Get the set up right before testing it without the PC. Will look for a local dyno spot sometime in the near future and get it booked in to do all the work in one go.

 

[bananaman]

I noticed that Mina was selling a PCV so will spend the extra on that as well and have the de-cat fitted along with the slip on & get it straight on the dyno, seems like the safest option.Get the set up right before testing it without the PC. Will look for a local dyno spot sometime in the near future and get it booked in to do all the work in one go.

Wise choice, if only for piece of mind...

 

[JimmyMac]

Jimmy, were you discussing the HP4 or a stock one?

HP4 Alex

 

[alex]

HP4 Alex

I would put money on these coping better, that why I asked. I guess some real data is required.