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    S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Having been the previous owner of both a Gen 1 and Gen 3 RR, I recently did a deal on my 17 plate RR and rode out with a shiny new, 2019 Black Storm Metallic S1000R so heres a few thoughts on the transition from double to single R


    First Impressions

    The main difference with the RR is the riding position pretty obvious really moving from clip-ons to raised flat bars but what I wasnt prepared for was how much more in control I felt over the bike on the road that I could easily boss it around and throw it into corners almost with abandon - on the same roads with the RR I may have been slightly faster (if at all) but would require more concentration and effort to do so and I think this is where the feeling of having more fun comes from mixed in with the greater torque at lower RPM making it seem more ferocious at road speeds than the RR - its an intoxicating combination. Dont get an R if you think you will ride slower on the road you wont!


    Windblast

    I think this is a main concern for most sportsbike riders given that we tend to fit double bubble screens to reduce windblast even further than the standard fairing and screen provide.
    With the standard mini-screen on the R windblast is not an issue, for me at least, up to about 80-90 thereafter its pretty intense and you really have to want to be going that fast to keep it up. This does have the effect of both making it pretty obvious that you are travelling at a rate of knots likely to be frowned upon by officialdom, but also provides tactile feedback missing on the RR, and modern sportsbikes in general, of just how fast you are going. This may be a good or a bad thing depending on your viewpoint.

    Ive since fitted a taller screen for looks more than anything - and easily saw 120-130 on track without much of an issue with windblast. With this screen fitted I have no issues whatsoever with windblast in daily riding, including fast but sane speeds on motorways.

    Handling

    Handling is great, up to the point where you are really going for it, then the benefits the RR brings in having your weight further over and lower on the front of the bike bring greater front end feel and stability. Ride accordingly on the road and you wont have any issues.

    Handling on the track the bike is flighty at speed and coupled with the relative lack of feedback from the front end when pushing it you wont be breaking your lap times. It is still great fun and I rode around the outside of many a slower rider on sportsbikes but just as many rode around me too make of that what you will its the rider as much as the bike.

    DDC

    There is a cut down version of the RR settings and these have changed since 2017 too I believe my 2019 has only 2 DDC modes Road and Dynamic, previous models had Soft/Medium/Hard. There is no option to tinker with compression or rebound front or rear youre stuck with choosing a mode, physically setting preload as per the RR or you can also choose solo or pillion setting (1 or 2 helmets) to stiffen things up for carrying luggage or a pillion.

    I cant really comment much further as I am way too heavy for the springs and therefore the suspension will not be working as it should. As per the RR it is setup for an 85KG rider I am a 61, 110KG pie eating athlete and have the preload maxxed front and rear for me the Road setting is too soft, and the Dynamic is too hard. Hopefully a visit to MCT in the future will sort that out.

    Brakes

    The rear brake actually works unlike my RR so that is a bonus for road riding, the front brake however feels way too grabby on initial bite way more so than my RR to the point that I only use 1 finger braking now otherwise, coupled with the soft front end, you end up head banging the dash. Im going to add a Brembo 19x18 MC to see if that will aid feel at the levers initial bite. Power and modulation once applied is immense its just the initial grab that sucks.


    In Summary

    I love this bike. More so than I ever did either of my RRs thats because it is more suited to the actual riding I do day in day out 99% road biased with an occasional foray onto track.
    On a more philosophical note it actually takes me back to my early biker days (been riding nearly 35 years - I used to lust after Kawasaki Z650s and the like J) before things took a more track biased focus of late more about being a Biker than about going fast on track.

    If I had the time and money to do more track days then the RR is the way to go but if those things come about in the near future then I would look at a dedicated track bike and keep a more road focussed bike as my daily. For now..
    I, like many of us I believe, am a fickle bastard - so god help me when they bring out the Gen 4 RR in Black

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Thanks for taking the time to write that up G!


    Would you tour on it?

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Great write up and couldn’t agree more re fast nakeds v out and out sports bikes, also couldn’t agree more about the fickle bit!

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Quote Originally Posted by alex View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to write that up G!


    Would you tour on it?
    I would definitely tour on it without issue - a decent screen is all it needs and possibly an ergo seat for extended periods in the saddle - I've been on it a couple of hours and the seat is fine but glad of a break after that.

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Thanks for the write up! I had a 'r' sport on loan for a few days a couple of years ago and completely agree with your synopsis, great fun, although I did get 3 points almost immediately lol.

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Brakes

    The rear brake actually works unlike my RR so that is a bonus for road riding, the front brake however feels way too grabby on initial bite way more so than my RR to the point that I only use 1 finger braking now otherwise, coupled with the soft front end, you end up head banging the dash. Im going to add a Brembo 19x18 MC to see if that will aid feel at the levers initial bite. Power and modulation once applied is immense its just the initial grab that sucks.
    Are you sure your rear brake works on RR at all? I suggest you bleed the line/abs. I can easily lock up the rear on track, to the point where I stopped using it, as I'm not Marquez when it comes to sliding yet.

    Initial bite, I think, is more a property of braking pads than MC. I have been riding with OEM MC for a while and recently switched to 19x18. The biggest change is the brake feel and more solid feedback/less force needed on heavy braking.
    It's next to impossible to feel the difference on public road type of usage, unless you ride there like on track.
    Change the pads to EBC HH and you will feel the aggressive initial bite on both bikes.

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Quote Originally Posted by bmwbadboy View Post
    Are you sure your rear brake works on RR at all? I suggest you bleed the line/abs. I can easily lock up the rear on track, to the point where I stopped using it, as I'm not Marquez when it comes to sliding yet.

    Initial bite, I think, is more a property of braking pads than MC. I have been riding with OEM MC for a while and recently switched to 19x18. The biggest change is the brake feel and more solid feedback/less force needed on heavy braking.
    It's next to impossible to feel the difference on public road type of usage, unless you ride there like on track.
    Change the pads to EBC HH and you will feel the aggressive initial bite on both bikes.
    He doesn't have an RR anymore...hence the review is about the R.

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Still to get levers & rearsets but not planning doing much else other than sorting springs for weight.

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Totally get the feeling of being more in control. My ownership of the S1000RR was very short indeed. I now have a Street Triple RS, and feel the same, way more in control. Don't know why as I suppose the S1000RR had more tech bits on it, but I always felt on the edge, nervous, even frightened of the bloody thing. I mean, they do shift at warp factor don't they. I have way more confidence in the Stripple. On a recent run to Barmouth with a few mates, my main ride buddy who still has his S1000RR can fly past on the straight bits, but cant do a thing about the RS on the twisties, mind you neither of us will ever find the limits of these bikes tbh. Same as another mate on the new Diavel 1260S.

    I nearly got the S1000R and I suppose if I hadn't been 'put off' if that's the right term, by my S1000RR would probably have one now, or a Tuono Factory. Enjoy the new bike, I aint ever going back to sports bike stuff now.

    Stuart

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    Re: S1KR Review Dropping an R

    Had a test ride on the Gen 4 RR on Sunday, what an awesome track focussed machine - but just confirmed for me that the R is still the way to go for road riding.

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