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    Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Evening All.
    I'm planning a tour next year and being a nerd, I like to know where all the good rides are so I can link them up.
    Got myself a really good book on UK rides a couple of years ago and it's been great for tips and ideas.
    Any ideas for helping me plan the above mentioned regions?
    Cheers, Hugh

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Michelin do motorcycle specific guides. Try the search terms 'motos routes michelin france'. Be prepared to translate!

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Thanks Snook, lots of stuff there. A great resource.
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    Been trawling the forum and found this from Soof:
    https://s1000rrforum.co.uk/showthrea...ll=1#post76657
    Some hunting around took me here:
    https://www.ride.co.uk/routes-1/the-...second-edition
    The GPX files are available to download and can be imported into
    https://www.google.com/maps/d/

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Hi hugh, i didnt go where you are planning on from the title of your thread but if you venture towards the pyrennes, picos or swiss alps I can offer some experience of the routes.

    I thought the picos and pyrennes woud make a very decent week long tour if done together and arguably better than the alps due to less traffic, less cops and imo as good if not better scenery.

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Thanks Andy. Very interesting. H

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Michelin map and look at green side lines on roads,

    Ardennes have some pretty good roads - depends on how long you are going for and miles per day.

    We've stayed i la roche en ardenne, vianden (Luxembourg), near spa or the Nuburgring are all good.
    If you want to go as far as Switzerland the B500 from baden baden is great and goes all the way
    don't eat the yellow snow

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    Re: Finding the good roads in Ardennes, French/German border region and Switzerland

    Thanks Mike

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    Pyrenees

    Quote Originally Posted by soofsayer View Post
    ...but if you venture towards the pyrennes, picos or swiss alps I can offer some experience of the routes. I thought the picos and pyrennes woud make a very decent week long tour if done together and arguably better than the alps due to less traffic, less cops and imo as good if not better scenery.
    Andy,
    I'm setting off from Santander early Sunday morning to check out the Pyrenees before tootling up to see a mate near Bordeaux. After picking you brain on tyres this morning (thanks BTW), any general tips on the Pyrenees? ...do this, avoid that...
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    Thanks. Do let me know exactly when I became a PITA.
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    Re: Pyrenees

    Quote Originally Posted by Huge View Post
    Andy,
    I'm setting off from Santander early Sunday morning to check out the Pyrenees before tootling up to see a mate near Bordeaux. After picking you brain on tyres this morning (thanks BTW), any general tips on the Pyrenees? ...do this, avoid that...
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    Thanks. Do let me know exactly when I became a PITA.
    Hugh
    @JimmyMac knows all the snowy mountain roads that are ideal for a sportsbike ;-)

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    Re: Pyrenees

    Quote Originally Posted by Huge View Post
    Andy,
    I'm setting off from Santander early Sunday morning to check out the Pyrenees before tootling up to see a mate near Bordeaux. After picking you brain on tyres this morning (thanks BTW), any general tips on the Pyrenees? ...do this, avoid that...
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    Thanks. Do let me know exactly when I became a PITA.
    Hugh
    If you can do the miles head for Jaca, all roads will be decent if you follow the mountains, then a bit further SE the n260 - d934 up across the border to Pau. Pau is a big place so traffic in town is a bit of a headache, but the road up and over the tops from spain, then down into pau is just brilliant for everything, one of the best runs ever. You will get the barren moon like summits then descend into forests etc.... If you then head for mont de marsan (motorways from pau to get there quickly) I would go cross country through Aquitaine to Bordeaux, french motorways are soooooo dull and the distances are epic, best avoided as much as possible.

    You will not do more than 40-50 mph average max in the mountains even if you are riding like a god, so bear that in mind with your planning. It can take a full day to do 200 or so miles with stops.

    Accommodation wise, Jaca is a holiday place for skiing so plenty to choose from. I recall a decent big hotel in jaca was only 40-50 euros out of season. Pau, we stayed at a campanile there and it was ******* terrible, shared the bathroom with cockroaches and the bed with some other things not yet discovered by science. Waitress was fit though. Pamplona is a fab place too, did my stag do there in 2003 with the bulls.

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