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Guys currently running in my 18 rr struggling to get the miles on it with this shitty weather.When I finally get it to its first service I?m looking to get the suspension set up properly can anyone recommend someone with knowledge of the RR I live in Derby and prepared to travel within reason.
 
Guys currently running in my 18 rr struggling to get the miles on it with this shitty weather.When I finally get it to its first service I?m looking to get the suspension set up properly can anyone recommend someone with knowledge of the RR I live in Derby and prepared to travel within reason.
Road Race Performance Coventry.. They look after me n all the lads really well.. They know what they are doing n really nice guys

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SSR are in Shropshire I believe, not used them personally but I believe they are worth visiting.

They bring Dave Moss over each year for Suspension 'classroom' stuff.

- Alex
 
Guys currently running in my 18 rr struggling to get the miles on it with this shitty weather.When I finally get it to its first service I’m looking to get the suspension set up properly can anyone recommend someone with knowledge of the RR I live in Derby and prepared to travel within reason.

Drop Colin Leeder at 100% suspension an email, he may be able to help although I know he specialises mainly in passive suspension set up. If it's any help he's at Cadwell all over the weekend of May 12/13 providing the suspension service for the club meeting there, I'm taking my bike up for him to give it the once over
 
If you fancy the journey, MCT Suspension are probably the best in the country, He has people coming all over the world for his work.
 
Just got back from Cadwell, only got rained on for the last 15 minutes or so :smile-new:, Gixxer suspension set up by Colin at 100% Suspension (who was providing the race suspension service there today) for a paltry ?50 and what a difference on the way back. If you haven't got your suspension set up by an expert yet, get it done
 
Is a DDC bike, if so set your sag with the other half and run calibration on the bike, then have a play with the settings.
 
Suspension Setup

Costs will vary depending on what you want done. If it?s nothing more than adjusting preload, and providing a base setting from which to work from, then budget ?50+. After that costs just increase depending on whether you want to change springs and valving etc or go further. You are best off contacting your local Suspension Technician directly and talking through the options which best suit you and your budget.
 
DDC Preload

For setting front preload with DDC the manual doesn?t specify whether the bike needs to be on or off. For setting rear preload the ignition needs to be turned on. Whenever I make adjustments to front or rear preload I always have the ignition turned on and then calibrate the DDC immediately afterwards.
 
just up the from me in milton keynes, do you know what they charge at all?

Yep as Ryan says 100%'s basic set up cost is ?50 for which you'll get the bikes sag checked front and rear and compression, damping & preload base settings put in place. You'll get a sheet with all the settings written down and in my case pillion settings too. Various outfits offer this kind of service, but in the case of 100% Colin does his work mainly at track days and race meetings, where I've had each of my bikes set up, for more money he will work with you throughout a track day to refine settings. I suggest you call or email him with your own requirements and go from there.
 
I'm in Bedford if you want a hand setings up sag send me a pm, I have a tape measure its that easy
 
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Why pay someone else to set your bike up as they like it?

I tried to learn the black art years ago and found the following helpful.

Can?t remember who gave it to me but helped me translate feel to what?s happening.

I road the same twisty road forever making Two clicks adjustment at a time and writing it down on my old K4.
That way you can go back if you mess it up.

You will learn more and it?s fun

ROUTE CAUSE ANALYSIS....

REAR...

TOO MUCH REBOUND (REAR)
- Wheel tends to hop in turns with small bumps
- Wheel skips too much when braking on rippled pavement. Does not develop good braking power
- Poor rear traction when accelerating over small bumps or rippled pavement
TOO LITTLE REBOUND (REAR)
- Bike wallows when exiting corners or in long rolling dips in sweepers
- Bike feels soft or vague
- Rear pogo or chatter on corner exits, general loss of traction, and tire overheating
TOO MUCH COMPRESSION (REAR)
- Suspension is harsh over small bumps
- Very little squat - Loss of traction/sliding
- Tire overheating
TOO LITTLE COMPRESSION (REAR)
- Shock bottoms out on Medium-sized bumps
- Rear squats under acceleration
- Bike doesn't want to turn upon corner entry
FRONT...
TOO MUCH REBOUND (FRONT)
- Front end feels 'Locked Up,' Harsh Ride Quality
- After first bump, the bike skips over following ones and wants to tuck front
- Bike prone to Headshake and Tankslapping upon hard acceleration
TOO LITTLE REBOUND (FRONT)
- Bike wallows and tends to RUN WIDE EXITING turns
- Front end CHATTER, loss of Traction
- Wheel KICKS BACK on large bumps
TOO MUCH COMPRESSION (FRONT)
- Front End tends to ride high through corners
- Suspension is harsh over small bumps
- Forks never seem to bottom out, even on large hits
TOO LITTLE COMPRESSION (FRONT)
- Front end DIVES SEVERELY
- Front feels Soft or Vague
- Clunk can be heard upon bottoming
GENERAL RULES
1) Set Sag and do the preload / steering test; adjust as necessary
2) SLIGHTLY harder rear compression helps the bike to turn in faster
3) AFTER the bike does nothing bad, balance damping so both ends work together
4) If wheel bouncing & you can't feel it through the bars add rebound; if you can reduce compression
5) Problem occurs from steer-in to midpoint, adjust front-end; from mid-point to exit adjust rear
6) Bike sits too high at front takes more effort to steer; raise forks through headstock
7) Bike too low at front, it will become unstabel; lower forks through headstock
8) Swingarm too flat, bike squats, runs wide, feels too light; add ride height to rear/lengthen shock
9) Swingarm too steep, bike won't squat, poor traction, wheelspin exits; lower rear height/shorten shock
10) Bike isn't balanced; adjust until it is - REGARDLESS of initial setup adjustments; this is vital


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Suspension Setup

Why pay someone else to set your bike up as they like it?

A good Suspension Technician will definitely not set up a bike the way they like it. Instead they will take the feedback that you provide and translate that into a setting that suits your needs and addresses issues that you are having on the bike.
 
Yep as Ryan says 100%'s basic set up cost is ?50 for which you'll get the bikes sag checked front and rear and compression, damping & preload base settings put in place. You'll get a sheet with all the settings written down and in my case pillion settings too. Various outfits offer this kind of service, but in the case of 100% Colin does his work mainly at track days and race meetings, where I've had each of my bikes set up, for more money he will work with you throughout a track day to refine settings. I suggest you call or email him with your own requirements and go from there.

Hi thanks for the info a few people have recommended Colin 100% suspension the beauty of this one is he is at donington on the 28th which is 10 miles away from me.The question is does he know his way around the rr with the ddc if so I will go see him.
 
Suspension Setup

The question is does he know his way around the rr with the ddc if so I will go see him.

Yes he does. The fundamentals are the same with DDC and whilst preload is still set manually the main difference is the other stages (compression and rebound) of the suspension are set electronically.
 
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